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    From: Guy Hutchison<ghutchis@g...>
    Date: Wed Jan 12 23:59:49 CET 2005
    Subject: [oc] Choosing a Fabrication Process
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    On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:03:48 +0000, Shawn Tan Ser Ngiap
    <shawn.tan@a...> wrote:
    > Hi everyone,
    >
    > I've got a question regarding choosing a fabrication process.. Let us imagine
    > for a moment that there is a fab out there with all possible processes
    > imaginable and is really cheap (a perfect fab).. I'm interested to know what
    > factors should be considered when choosing the process..
    >
    > - How do we decide if we want to use 0.35 or 0.25 or 0.18 or 0.13 or any other
    > size for that matter??

    Process is generally chosen on basis of price, so your perfect fab is
    not a good example. :) Newer generation processes give lower
    per-unit cost and power consumption, at a cost of higher NRE.

    > - Does it matter if a design is fully digital/fully analog/mixed??

    Yes, but analog is a special case in almost every process... Analog
    parts are typically fabbed in larger processes that are better
    characterized and less expensive to fix if you screw up.

    > - Does power (W) and supply (V) come into the picture??

    The max and min voltages go down as your feature size gets smaller, so yes.

    > - Does speed (MHz/GHz) come into the picture??

    Smaller processes are faster.

    > - How do we decide which foundry/fab to use??

    What are your requirements? What skills does your team have? If you
    haven't fabbed a chip before, you almost certainly want to go with
    someone who handles your back-end (IBM, Agilent, LSI Logic).

    > - Any other things to consider??

    Depending on how much analog logic you have, consider doing your
    design in an FPGA and doing an FPGA->ASIC conversion through Orbit or
    someone similar.

    > I'm about to go down the full-custom analogue/mixed path and I'd like to have
    > some idea of what to expect...

    Honestly, I'm not trying to put a downer on things, but if you're
    seriously going to design a full-custom chip, you shouldn't be asking
    these questions. Most of this list is Chip Design 101, and custom
    analog silicon is the Deep Voodoo of chip design.

    Good Luck,

    Guy

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