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    From: H. Peter Anvin<hpa@z...>
    Date: Wed Jul 14 02:07:35 CEST 2004
    Subject: [oc] Generic Memories
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    bporcella wrote:
    >
    > On the other hand, my attempts to use "generic" memory in Open Cores
    > CVS have been frustrating -- what are
    > described as "generic dual port rams" turn out to be "generic dual port
    > rams with read output registers"
    > or "generic dual port rams with read address registers" -- or
    > sometimes both.
    >
    > I strongly suspect that most of the "generic" memories in CVS are not
    > fully "up to date".
    > They are (at minimum) not well described - in my humble opinion.
    > Perhaps some of you who have been around awhile could think about this a
    > few minutes.
    >
    > TWO QUESTIONS
    > 1) Are we perhaps better off using FPGA tools to instantiate
    > memories from standard descriptions (updated often by vendors) or should
    > we continue to try to maintain generic files that "aid" in syntheses?
    > 2) More importantly - do the "generic" memory files we have actually
    > aid in FPGA synthesis - if so how.?
    >

    Most FPGAs available today have RAMs which required address registering.
    Thus, you generally can't use the RAM structures in FPGAs unless you use
    registered addresses/write data, and preferrably registered read data as well.

    What I generally do is put RAM instantiations in separate files; that way I
    can use either vendor-specific files or generic files -- after all, you need
    generic files e.g. when running simulations, and frequently the FPGA tools can
    figure out what you want from the generic files, so you don't need to muck
    with vendor-specific stuff at all. For *initialized* memories, though, you
    generally do need vendor-specific stuff :(

    -hpa

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